New Version?

robmcmonigal

12/23/2013 16:50

Hi All,

A few of you know me from the Nirvanna forums. I had tried Doit for a bit, but I didn't care for the lack of manual ordering, which I understand is back if you go pro.

So for those of you using the changes, especially if you've got any Nirvanna experience, how do you like it? Worth considering making the switch?

I liked Nirvanna a lot, and I know no system will be perfect for me, but I'm terrified by their lack of caring, and looking at options. This was my #2 system, curious to see if maybe with the changes, it should be #1.

Thanks,

Rob

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• Folke  (积分：2425)12/23/2013 18:06
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  Hi Rob,
  
  The app is in a big mess right now after the update, as you can see from the bug reports and discussions in the main forum, but hopefully they will correct the bugs and reconsider some of the poor design choices quite soon.
  
  If you do not have your tasks here already you might as well wait a while, perhaps play with it a bit and see for yourself, and make suggestions on the main forum.
  
  The manual ordering works, but they have implemented it selectively on the lists where you need it least, and not at all where you would have expected it most. For example, they still have only all-active (parallel) projects and they now let you manually reorder tasks within each "Box" (Next, Waiting etc), but you cannot order them manually into a mixed sequence (and you cannot inactivate the "tail" in any way, not even within each "Box" separately). And you cannot manually reorder the Today list, which might have been one of the more obvious possibilities. So I have mixed feelings about this. They have indeed developed some powerful and impressive sorting technology, but it needs a bit of polishing to become fully useful.
  
  For me, Doit is still my #1 system, but they are playing a dangerous game. They need to fix a lot of stuff soon.
  
  For example, Doit has always had a weird kind of starring/today functionality, where starring means that the task is physically moved away from wherever it was and onto the Calendar (for today). And I discovered after the update that they have now realized that having a star to accomplish that is totally unnecessary, which I fully agree with. So guess what their conclusion has been, apparently? To have no star at all! Holy Jesus! They seem to have removed the star completely already except in the web app, which will be updated later. This definitely needs to be changed! We need a star. We need a simple, normal star - a star that is just the typical "attention flag" that all apps have and that you can use as you please, not the kind of counterproductive "manipulation shortcut" we had before in Doit (and still have in the web app).
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• AJS  (积分：40)12/26/2013 10:01
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  I was expecting an overhaul of the the whole group of apps but the web app looks to have missed the upgrade, and as this is what I use most day to day that is disappointing. Using the web app it is much easier to add a quick task from the chrome extension, but now there is a discrepancy in the different versions if I continue to use it such as star/doitnow functions visible in the web but not in windows or mobile. The easiest way to make it work across the board seems to be put everything in next and organise by priority as in the Linenberger system rather than use the time context boxes such as today/tomorrow. Of course then that will negate many of the newer features.
  
  This is one of the reasons why I was only renewing on a month to month basis until I had a good look at the upgraded version before committing to the full year licence. I will have a good test period but I think I may well renew my Todoist licence instead. They have a uniform and consistent product and their chrome extension was always better than Doit's anyway, and that's a key part of my workflow. Doit seem to have implemented lots of new functions but they are half baked at the moment and that just adds unnecessary confusion. Less was definitely more in this case.
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• robmcmonigal  (积分：505)01/05/2014 19:44
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  Hey Gang,
  
  Been reading the forum stuff and on the groups list. Wow, it's so weird seeing the provider talking back, asking questions, and being honest in its comment to the consumers.
  
  Was wondering if anything's settled down with the Window client at this point, after a few weeks of use and tweaks. Also wondering if the web app will switch over to a similar interface of the others, since that's what I was using and would probably keep using (I don't really see advantage of a desktop client).
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• Folke  (积分：2425)01/05/2014 23:13
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  It seems they will adapt the web app later on to match the other apps, but it also seems they are taking notice of some of the user criticism of the new features, and I think maybe we can expect some form of starring functionality and priority sorting to be brought back, hopefully a better form than we had before. They have mentioned January for something related to starring.
  
  No, it is not settled yet. Many bugs here and there still to be ironed out, but they are getting rid of a few almost every day, it seems. The apps are all fully usable. Expect a "public beta" kind of quality if you care to come over.
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• AJS  (积分：40)01/07/2014 16:35
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  Hi Rob,
  
  I've switched back to Todoist personally because I've previously used it and liked it, same as Doit.im. I was holding off because I was looking forward to the new version of Doit, but there is some discrepancy between the web app and the others at this time and I didn't want to hold off making a decision any longer.
  
  What I will say is that unlike Nirvana, you can be sure Doit will make the changes necessary sooner rather than later. They are very responsive to their user base and have always delivered and to me that is as important as the product itself. The new mobile app is very nice by the way. I will definitely keep an eye on the web app and would have no hesitation in switching back in a year's time once it's upgraded and everything is uniform across the board.
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