Both are wonderful comments. I especially agree with the need for separation between items on Calendar and Tickler - Even in today's view, there are items I have to get done today (meaning they are time-bound), but there are items that I bring them there for working on today but it is not a problem if I miss it. I constantly struggle to maintain the separation, so a separation between time-bound (calendar) activities and tickler would make a lot of sense
Many users probably do not know GTD, but still use Doit, and maybe they would like GTD, too, if only they knew what it is. The "problem" is that Doit is so versatile and powerful that a new user might equally well end up using it in a way which is perhaps less efficient for them than GTD.
In particular, I feel there are two areas where Doit perhaps might "mislead" fledgling GTDers in the "wrong" direction:
- Scheduled
- Reviews
SCHEDULED
GTD recognizes two different tools of a "scheduling" or "time-programmed" kind - the Calendar and the Tickler file. These are very different. The Calendar is for reserving a particular time slot (or day) for a particular action, such as an appointment or teamwork session. It is important to see these on the calendar in order to avoid double-booking
The Tickler file is for things that are premature to even think about now. You cannot really decide anything until some "earliest possible date" in the future. On that day you will decide what to do about it. These dates you normally do not need to see on the calendar. The tickler date does not in any way suggest that you have any intention of actually doing them on that day, only that you will begin to think about them from that day onwards.
GTD generally advises against scheduling your personal "solo" tasks, but if you do schedule them anyway, despite David Allen's advise, then of course they are to be treated as Calendar actions, not as Ticklers. Personally, I use Doit's scheduled almost entirely as a GTD Tickler file.
Suggestion: You could, of course, foe clarity, replace Scheduled with two entirely separate "boxes" called Calendar and Tickler, but what I would suggest instead is that in the edit screen, where you enter or edit a new "scheduled" action, you implement a checkbox etc called "Calendar". If this box is checked, then the task will be shown on the calendar, and if the task is not completed it will be marked red (overdue) just like today. If the checkbox is not checked, the default is "Tickler". In this case the action should not be shown on the calendar and should not be marked as overdue.
REVIEW
In normal English the word "review" has a very wide meaning. You can review anything. In GTD, what David Allen is referring to, and what is extremely important, is the reviewing of your plan for the future, in other words review and contemplate your projects, goals etc and make appropriate changes to these plans and organize them even better. Your plan is a living document, constantly evolving.
Doit already has some good features for GTD reviewing. It has projects and goals. It has contexts and priorities etc. And many other things.
But the feature called "Review" in Doit is not really suited for GTD reviewing at all. That review feature is for evaluating your past, not for planning your future. It may be useful for other methodologies, but not for GTD. Personally I have no use for it at all.
Suggestion 1: For even better GTD reviewing it would be good to be able to see even more details about the tasks directly in the lists (tags etc), and it would be useful to see and control which tasks are "active" and which are "inactive".
Suggestion 2: Rename or remove the current "review" feature. It gives new users the wrong impression of the true importance of the GTD review. If you keep the feature, why not call it "punctuality assessment" or something like that. And make it clear to users that this is totally outside of GTD, actually in direct conflict with GTD.
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11/26/2013 13:37#1PRO
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11/26/2013 22:04#2PRO
agree :) That would be very nice!
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11/27/2013 08:40#4PRO
@Folke @siraj @kastangen
Hi all,
Thank you for your feedback.
Q:- Scheduled
A: In Doit.im,Scheduled is the Calendar what you called. About the "Tickler",we now offer other boxes for you to manage your tasks. We will consider seriously about your suggest to add a checkbox when you add a scheduled task.
Q:- Reviews
A: Review in Doit.im is mostly designed for evaluating your past which can help you plan your future. In the new version,we will add a feature called Plan which is for planning your future.
Thank you for your support!
Best regards,
Doit.im Team
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11/27/2013 12:16#5PRO
@wendy_only
For me personally, none of this is any problem at all. I can use Doit for GTD already as it is. I simply use Scheduled for my ticklers; I use my calendar for my calendar actions; and I do not use the historic review at all as it contains no relevant information in my case (for GTD).
Again, I am sorry if I constantly interfere with your marketing. But Doit is so strong in its time-management features that it is almost a pity to call it only GTD. It might scare off a lot of time-management people who could also be valuable customers of yours!
And, the other way round, if somebody young and fresh, who has just started to try GTD and does not yet quite understand it, starts using Doit, it would be so much easier for them if everything was set up specifically for GTD - in a non-time-management style. As it is now, they will be quite easily misled into using time management instead, since there are so many features in Doit that suggest time planning / time management.
Question: When you say "About the "Tickler", we now offer other boxes for you to manage your tasks." How do you mean? What is Doit's recommendation? Perhaps you mean to put these tasks down as Someday actions with a deadline (or a reminder) for the tickle date? Sure, that could be one workaround, although I personally prefer to keep them apart from my true decided Maybes. -
11/28/2013 06:52#6PRO
@Folke
Hi,
Thank you for your attention.
We will consider your suggestion seriously. Please give us some time. And the new version will not have this change.
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11/28/2013 08:59#7PRO
I'm in agreement with @Folke on the review.
The title of your website homepage is "Doit.im | Best Online GTD Service for Getting Things Done..." so obviously your app is centered around David Allen's GTD system.
GTD consists of 5 major steps or stages, and one of them is Review. Your GTD-centric app (Doit.im) has a feature called "Review" but it does not do what Review actually is in GTD, it does something else. You can see why this might confuse people.
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11/29/2013 02:42#8PRO
@colinmarshall
Hi,
Thank you for your good suggestion.
In some case,"History" or "Progress Report" will make the feature better to be understood. We will consider it seriously.
Thank you for your support!
Best regards,
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12/02/2013 08:38#9PRO
Doit Team, Thanks for the responses and the openness to consider our suggestions. For me the best way to separate Calendar and Tickler is to use Scheduled as Tickler and to introduce a separate Calendar box. Since most people use other products like Google Calendar to manage their calendar, then Calendar can be logically synched with Google Calendar and Scheduled or (renamed to Tickler) can be used only as a tickler. To me, using the someday with a deadline for Tickler item is not quite right - given that you want to be a GTD app, it would be great if you support the distinction between Calendar and Tickler explicitly. Or at least allow that as a preference for users like us who want to view it separately.
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12/03/2013 08:15#10PRO
@siraj
Hi,
Thank you for your feedback. We will look into this issue.