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thealbs

11/04/2013 07:33

Hi

Does anyone know when the version of doit shown in the latest blog entry is likely to launch? From the screenshots it looks powerful and potentially confusing in equal measure but I'm looking forward to teying it out all the same.

Apologies if this is the wrong group to post in but the usual support forums appear to have been retired in fabour of the user groups??

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• Folke  (积分：2425)11/04/2013 20:40
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  @thealbs - it is pretty dead here, too, and Doit staff never participate here - it seems to be strictly users only. I think you'd better ask Doit directly in the Features forum, but from they had said many times in that forum it will be sometime "this winter", i.e. very soon now or early spring or something like that.
  
  Some of the interesting features they have mentioned in the forum, bit not in the blog post, are these additional features:
  
  - manual sorting at Goal, Project, Task and Subtask level
  - some form of handling of parallel/sequential actions (not specified how, though)
  - improved filtering/tagging
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• thealbs  (积分：100)11/06/2013 22:46
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  @Folke - hi - good to see you're still active over here anyhow !
  
  My hopes were raised when I saw the Blog as it wasn't too clear whether the new features had been launched already. After much 'Check for updates' activity in my various different platforms it clearly wasn't. Hey ho I'll check back in in a few weeks and see. Could be a long cold winter..
  
  Bye for now.
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• Anjum  (积分：100)11/07/2013 23:47
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  Looks like they are adding some of the more powerful features from Todoist, namely graphs and gamification. Still heavily time-focused but I guess that's up to you how granular you want to get. Looks to me like there is going to be a lot of fields to fill so those fields should provide value and as few clicks as possible otherwise it will be more trouble than it's worth.
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• Folke  (积分：2425)11/08/2013 01:48
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  @Anjum
  
  Yes, they seem to be going for many other things than GTD. Instead, time planning and backward-looking performance reviewing seem to be their main focus.
  
  Enhanced functionality for core spirited GTD, such as more powerful tools for situation based task selection does not appear to be anything they even dream of, nor does the forward-looking GTD kind of reviewability. But there is one promising exception:
  
  It seems (from the screen shots in the blog post) that they are introducing better hierarchical reviewability by allowing you to have subtasks visible while looking at the tasks. That will be very useful good. I hope this applies to Goals, too - to be able to have projects open in the Goal view. And the new manual sorting will also facilitate GTD reviewing as it allows you to put tasks in an intuitive order that is easy to double-check. So this seems to be a major improvement that I am excited about.
  
  It also seems they are taking a cautious step in the direction of hiding subsequent tasks in projects from being shown on the active lists (parallel/sequential functionality). Unfortunately, they seem to be going for the almost useless "see ONE or see ALL" solution that Nirvana also has. It would have been so much better for Doit and the users if they had gone for a "parasequential" approach - a parallel project with a sequential tail; no choices, and you can have as many parallel tasks as you want, and the rest hidden in the queue behind. Zendone is still way ahead in this respect. I usually have more than just one task concurrently active (in parallel) so it looks like I am going to have to keep using my manual workaround for all this (http://help.doit.im/group/topic/43
  
  MLO, and I believe Omnifocus too, also has the rigid "all or one" approach, but unlike Nirvana they have unlimited sub-levels that you can use to compensate for that rigidity - in MLO, if you have several tasks that can be done in parallel you just put them in parallel in a subproject and put that subproject within a sequential project. But "parasequential" (parallel by default; with a sequential tail to which you can drag tasks to make them subsequent, in order) is so much simpler for the users - even if the app has unlimited levels.
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• Folke  (积分：2425)11/08/2013 12:57
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  Anybody using a Mac? @hntopper, I know you are - are you there? The new project features (manual etc) apparently has been implemented already in the Mac desktop version.
  
  Can someone please describe how it is implemented? Can it hide subsequent actions from the Next list? Can you have more than just one Next action active, but keep the rest queued up? Etc? Etc?
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• thealbs  (积分：100)11/09/2013 16:26
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  @Folke - I am running on a MAC. Have checked for updates and its telling me 1.6.22 is still the latest version so I don't think there have been any recent releases.
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• Folke  (积分：2425)11/09/2013 20:22
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  @thealbs - I see. So probably it has not been released yet. They only actually said it has been "completed" (not "released"): http://help.doit.im/topics/2001
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• Stephen2  (积分：160)11/23/2013 09:37
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  Manual sorting in the Mac version is still not available :-(
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• ecolasurdo  (积分：140)11/24/2013 03:35
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  I use mac... but the desktop version doesn't have everything the web based does.
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